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- From: genew@mindlink.bc.ca (Gene Wirchenko)
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- Subject: Re: Can we do programming without seeing the end user?
- Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 09:45:45 GMT
- Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
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- david@visix.com (David Charlap) wrote:
-
- >Gene Wirchenko <genew@mindlink.bc.ca> wrote:
-
- [snip]
-
- >> I am getting bloody sick and tired of the attitude with bugs of
- >>"What? You haven't upgraded to version <higher-than-what-you-have>?
- >>It's only $<number-greater-than-zero>."
- >> I am tired of this nonsense. It discourages me from buying
- >>software.
-
- >Flame all you want, but it doesn't change the marketplace.
-
- Really? If I bought a tangible item and got treated in this
- manner, all sorts of things could be done. Why do you consider
- software so different?
-
- >If you take the time to get everything right in the first release, you
- >will never make back your development costs. The extra time you took
- >will be long enough for your competitors to get something else to
- >market. By the time your version 1 is out, they'll be on version 2
- >with version 3 in beta, and they'll have all the customers you wanted
- >to sell to.
-
- Maybe you are using the wrong tools if you consider that getting
- the job done right in a timely manner is impossible. I do not ask for
- software to be perfect; I ask for it to work within certain limits and
- to be corrected if it fails within those limits. I much prefer a
- working program that is plain to buggy, feature-laden one.
- Version 1.0 is a joke. It is very unlikely I will ever buy 1.0
- software. The exception would be if the bug problem was significantly
- less than the problem of not having the software's product. Since I
- won't be buying this buggy software, there goes a bit of the market.
- If enough people decided that buggy software was unacceptable, there'd
- be changes.
- How much money do you lose when a user calls for support? As a
- clue, the cost of serving the customer comes all out of profit.
-
- >Now you're no longer marketing your product into a void. You're
- >trying to compete against an entrenched "standard", even though you
- >may have started work first. You're going to have to have an
- >incredible sales and marketing staff to break into that market, no
- >matter what your code is like.
-
- Maybe, but it seems you need one anyway.
-
- >The greatest program in the world is useless to the developers if they
- >can't maky any money from it.
-
- And the most profitable program in the world is useless to the
- users if they can't get any useful work done with it. (Modify
- suitably for a nonwork program.)
-
- >---------------------+--------------------------------------------------------+
- >David Charlap | The contents of this message are not the opinions of |
- >david@visix.com | Visix Software, nor of anyone besides myself. |
- >Visix Software, Inc. +------------------------------------------------+-------+
- >Member of Team-OS/2 | Quantum mechanics: The dream stuff is made of. |
- >---------------------+------------------------------------------------+
-
- Sincerely,
-
- Gene Wirchenko
-
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